I'll expound on my reason for suggesting this, and a few thoughts of correcting or implementing something.
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Alright, I'm a guidless druid, I PUG Karazhan weekly, I find I prefer to do this because I can form the group, and decide who and who doesn't get in.
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This has worked extremely well for me.
But yesterday I found something that really isn't cool.
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I logged on, and found out ANOTHER guild was in my Karazhan save.
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I had stopped my run because people was sleepy, and yeah they had to do RL stuff.
So I decided to postpone the clearing until Friday, because key players couldn't get on.
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So I logged on, and this other guild is in my Karazhan save.
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I finally was able to get them out, because one of my buddies was the raid leader.
One of the members from my pug pretty much said it like this.
You don't start the raid I will, and he was gonna start it with...
not sure who but someone.
So once I get on, I get pretty mad, because they killed Shade (a boss I needed for a quest), then cleared Chess.
I finally got control of it, because my buddy gave me raid leader, and I handled it.
They told me if I wanted to come in I had to abide by there Rules, even though it was my 7 hrs of work getting a pug going, and clearing up to Curator.
They also told me I had a bad attitude...
I was at that point really speechless, guess they don't understand what it feels like to work on something, then someone else steal it and receive all the glory (in that case loot).
Okay now since you know why I'm posting, I'd like to offer a solution, or a remedy or something you could implement in the future.
1.
First Raid leader not present, raid should not be able to zone in.
(I'm talking about the person that formed the group.)
2.
If the Previous Raid leader passes the lead to another person, they should be able to zone in.
3.
Two Raid groups shouldn't be able to zone into Karazhan.
(I had 2 peeps in my raid, and they had 8, so they couldn't really go much further lacking heals and tanking) [This honestly could apply not only to Lower End Game instance, but throughout the End Game stuff.]
I'm sure there is more solutions but you catch my drift.
If I form the Raid I OWN the karazhan save.
If the players that join the pug don't understand that, they can join a guild that clears it regularly.
That's the thing about puggin, anyone that joins my raid could clear it without me being on at any one time.
And Then I gotta wait a week to get back in.
That isn't fair what-so-ever.
You guys have contol measures for 5 mans, why not for 10 mans and above.
I know adding this feature alone wouldn't be that difficult to add.
And the rise of PUGs in karazhan is huge, all day long I see people recruiting for pugs.
Alright my rantings over.
Thanks
Mark D.
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